Template for \"Today\'s node\" – F8

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  • #124559

    Klaas Vaak
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    Sisyfos, thanks for coming back to me. Yes, I considered doing that, but I decided against it because it would mean still spending a fair amount of time each day add the missing layout & data. Right now I am using OneNote with a complete template, I don’t see the benefit of making a few steps back in convenience & ease of use just to use the calendar node in CT.

    #124560

    Klaas Vaak
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    Eureka, I am glad you are not just doing this for me.
    In terms of the process at my end, what I do every day is call up the template each day & fill in the data, which form a sort of historic record, a journal. I don’t do any analysis of the data.

    I am using Win 8.1/64-bit. I don’t have Python installed, but have no objection to installing it. How would such an interactive form work? And if I need to change the template, how easy would that be to do?

    #124584

    eureka
    Member

    Klaas

    After kicking around various approaches I think that the most stable approach is to install Java8, Jetty, and Actiona using the links I listed earlier. Then I will be able to post an Actiona script which takes it from that baseline.

    Regarding how I see this working ..

    Blank CherryTree node created (your daily journal node)

    CherryTree Edit > Insert/Edit Link

    Node hyperlink directs to website .. local jetty URL

    e.g. http://localhost:8080/forms/index.html

    Form is completed in your default browser

    Form Submit button clicked

    Form data can then be sent in different routes depending on user requirement …

    — write back form fields to CherryTree node either in clear text or in a table

    — write back to a formal database for archiving/analysis

    — write back to log file

    Regarding question on ease of changing templates (i.e create a library of form layouts/templates) I envisage a script or a form for that express purpose .. e.g. a “form template builder”. Using a form to design form templates.

    The form components will be described in a simple *.ini file format.

    The idea is to remove the need for knowledge of jquery components and HTML/JS/CSS coding.

    If you want to get a handle on what is state of the art look at Orbeon form builder.

    https://doc.orbeon.com/form-builder/

    Community version is free.
    This though is getting into deep technical.
    It is one future target application for me to link to.

    If you install Actiona (see earlier link) I can follow up with an automation script which runs in your Actiona.

    I have to comment that I don’t see the purpose of holding journal notes (your examples) at such a nanolevel if you don’t/can’t analyse them.

    The clue in your example templates was the word “zettelkasten”. I searched and found this ..

    https://zettelkasten.de/posts/your-first-note/

    and some more ideas here …

    http://archive.is/iLUym

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    #124589

    Klaas Vaak
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    Eureka, I don’t know what is going on with the forum, but I don’t see my earlier reply about my 4 categories of notes, and I do not see your reply to that Part 1 of 2, although I did get the email notification with your text.

    My answer to that:
    Thanks for your advice about Ubuntu, I will bear it in mind. I have not decided yet about the move, but you probably gathered that.

    You say LAMP stack is less easy in Windows, which worries me a bit. Would it not be possible to use Jetty, then eventually switch to LAMP if/when I am in Linux? Or does that mean the programming would have to be redone from scratch?

    Another point I forgot to mention is that I regularly copy/paste part of a spreadsheet into 1N. That is not a problem because 1N is part of the Office suite. But in CT it does not render well. My workaround is to make a screenshot of the spreadsheet & copy/paste that into CT. Would the copy/paste action for the screenshot be possible in the form system you have in mind?

    #124594

    Klaas Vaak
    Member

    Eureka, a couple of other things I need are the ability to add a ToC, and from time to time I need to add a bit of extra text without amending the template.
    So I took another close look at my 1N template: I can make a CT template with the same data, except it will not be organised with little tables but with text only. That way I will fulfill my requirement for these 2 aspects, and where I need to add excel data to demonstrate a point I will insert a screenshot of the spreadsheet.

    In the final analysis, I feel that your solution, while an interesting one & probably useful for your workflow, is too much of a workaround in my case.

    I hope I have not inconvenienced you too much, which is why I wanted to let you know now rather than at a later stage.

    I want to thank you for your understanding & help.

    #124595

    eureka
    Member

    Klaas

    I understand your wish not to use a plethora of tools to extend CherryTree functionality, since it is going through migration anyway. No inconvenience to me.

    One question so that I can continue with my own hacking.

    What version of OneNote are you using?

    #124596

    Klaas Vaak
    Member

    OneNote 2013.

    #124597

    eureka
    Member

    Klaas

    This experiment works for me (but possibly not you since you have earlier versions).

    My setup:
    Windows 10
    OneNote 2016

    In OneNote .. create document
    then OneNote File > Export (Microsoft Word XML Document) .. docx extension

    Install pandoc (read here for context).

    https://www.giuspen.com/topic/status-of-the-development/page/2/

    posts #124548 and #124549

    (Incidentally the format / theme of this forum has changed in recent days and there is no way I can see to retrospectively edit the large font size now displayed, which were not in previous format).

    Now with pandoc installed go to location of exported *.docx and run …

    pandoc myOneNote.docx -o myOneNote.html

    You can now import this HTML into CherryTree node.

    #124598

    Klaas Vaak
    Member

    Howdy Eureka, thanks for this suggestion !! Brilliant in its simplicity, exactly what I needed. Now I don’t have to go through different loops to get my data into CT.

    I had come across Pandoc before but stayed away because it seemed complicated, perhaps because I was less comfortable with software without a GUI. Anyhow, I have it now so it’ll come in handy. Thank you again 😉

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